Question:
Which do you support: rights for women, or equal rights for everyone?
Common Sense
2016-09-20 10:43:00 UTC
Do you support special "rights" for women (different from men) or equal rights for everyone regardless of sex?

Should women be granted certain advantages over males under the law as mainstream feminism has advocated? Why or why not?
38 answers:
.Jerry.
2016-09-20 12:27:10 UTC
"Which do you support: rights for women, or equal rights for everyone?"



Equal Rights for everyone. At this point in our history, we are too far down this road of individual Rights and supposedly .. Responsibilities. Any feminist adherent today .... and there are many .... that now wish to lobby for special Rights AFTER we have attained equal Rights is a full on hypocrite. And this is because they are only looking to attain special Rights and privileges on top of their equal Rights to men. In other words, MORE Rights than men have.



Feminists will really need to ask themselves this one big question. If they believe that women are different enough that they need to be specially catered to in some ways by law, then why should we live in a society that bestows equal Rights? The old traditional system was perhaps the ideal as far as recognizing the strengths and weaknesses of each gender and applying a mix of Rights and Responsibilities to each gender that best suited the society at large.



And it seems that feminist want to take us back to the old arrangement and cherry pick the good stuff, while still living in a world where they are legally equal to men. SORRY! But it doesn't work that way.



Equal Rights with the same corresponding Responsibilities.

-OR-

Special provisions made for your gender with reduced Rights where men must take on the Responsibilities that will be given up by women.



PICK ONE!!

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?
2016-09-22 08:04:52 UTC
Equal rights for everyone
dfadf
2016-09-21 06:52:54 UTC
Equal rights.
JoJo
2016-09-20 19:06:56 UTC
Equal Rights for everyone..
J
2016-09-21 14:03:10 UTC
I believe that what is keeping everyone "separated" are all these actual, individual groups that continue to protest and look for equal rights (as they perceive them). I would bet that everyone has at least one friend or person they like/respect that is "different" than they are (religious, race, gender, gay, etc...) I think that people get more and more anti-"everything" when there are all these groups pushing their causes. There will always be a bad egg in some sort of group - they are not hated as a group until they are purposely associated with a group. Black Lives Matter is a great example - Why does it have to be "Black"? All lives matter - instead of singling themselves out and protesting everything - would it not have been better and more well received if it was "All Lives Matter"?



I find it so hard to believe that in this day and age we are still doing this. Diversity - its not about hiring the best person - its about not being looked badly as a company because there are fewer "minorities". "Minorities" - yet another word/group that suggests inequality.



If/When Hillary becomes president - does she get in because she is the (#1) right person? or (#2) a woman? or (#3) "not Trump" - Sadly I'm guessing that it will be #2 or #3..
anonymous
2016-09-20 16:27:41 UTC
Equal rights for everyone. I think what happened was the attempts to get men and women, white people and minorities, on the same level somehow morphed into a system which allows for them to be treated better and get away with more.



Temporarily giving a disadvantaged demographic more opportunities in an attempt to level things out might not be bad if not for that a portion of them fight to keep it that way once the goal has been accomplished.
?
2016-09-22 03:25:31 UTC
Equal rights for everyone...but the two aren't mutually exclusive, in fact, the first is completely included in the second, and the second is not negated by the first. Mainstream feminism does not advocate for special advantages for women. If you're going to make claims like that, at least include examples of what you're talking about.



Being in favor of equal rights does not make me NOT a feminist. I'm a feminist because I believe society still has a lot of really bizarre and useless attitudes about gender roles, most of which favor men. That's not to say there aren't attitudes that give special advantage to women. Those are important to address too. Being a feminist does not mean I'm working against men's rights any more than working on men's issues makes you a misogynist.
?
2016-09-20 11:31:07 UTC
Our Civil Law. Made possible by what is morally/ethically as a policy, correct by the Golden Rule, and there are no exceptions to it, among people.



(Excuses are all that people use to try and break it, with the reason of trying to get by with it, and when they do, it is claimed that the other is guilty of allowing it, that also breaks the rule. Also, when a person has pushed the bar too far against others, and others start pushing the bar back too far on them for it, it is also a matter of both being guilty. In order to have it fair, the bar is put in the middle, and kept there. As a way of correcting matters, that is considered 'just right', and it is a good as it gets about being 'fair is fair' for all. Which will instill the rule, to have the policy, which includes the law, and is civil among human beings. This is love~
Chris
2016-09-20 12:16:44 UTC
Equal rights for everyone.

Equal rights for everyone regardless of sex.

No.

It is because 3rd wave feminist advocate for a womens supremacy and not equal rights for everyone fairly.
Dip! Just Dip!
2016-09-20 10:56:24 UTC
It depends on what you mean by "equal rights for everyone" as opposed to "rights for women". In completely free countries, women are often advantaged thanks to unfair laws. When it comes to equal rights for employment, the person most qualified for the job deserves the job if the employer feels that they fit in every aspect of the position, which includes best suited to adapt to the atmosphere rather than just doing the job. I would gladly tip my hat to a woman who had more experience than me and got a job I also applied for. But, if she was hired simply for being female and I had better qualifications, that would not be fair or equal.
shyboy1992
2016-09-21 12:37:16 UTC
Equal rights for all
?
2016-09-20 17:38:09 UTC
Equal rights for all
?
2016-09-21 00:03:38 UTC
I doubt that equal rights for everyone is going stop special interest groups from wanting more for themselves. The legal definition of equality would then be turned against women by certain groups wanting to stop affirmative action, making women fight on the front lines in war, and abolishing VAWA.
Dawn
2016-09-20 12:52:24 UTC
I support equal rights (and opportunities) for everyone. But personally, I advocate a meritocracy. No individual should be given special privileges just because they happen to belong to a minority group or a group that was historically oppressed.
?
2016-09-21 05:27:55 UTC
l supports natural rights for everyone. This includes everyone having the same rights. No police,millitary, government (since they have more rights than everybody else). Anarchy society with rules. Women having more rights=chaos. Police=chaos. Millitary=chaos.
gracie
2016-09-20 20:45:49 UTC
U almost have to have it for everyone because if u did just women then u also have to do trans so it would just be easier to do equal rights for all
WaldoBC
2016-09-20 12:59:13 UTC
I support equal rights for everyone regardless of sex.



For true gender equality to occur, we need to get rid of all existing discriminatory policies (that effect, benefit or advantage one gender over another) and forbid the passage of any new ones.
Frederick
2016-09-22 15:45:19 UTC
If we read the Declaration of Independence we will see that the whole and entire human race has co-equal rights endowed in theme by there Creator, these rights define he human race!
Elana
2016-09-21 11:23:07 UTC
No, equal rights for women is not the same as equal rights for everyone. That's a re-hash of George Orwell's "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others".



Equality is symmetric and until feminists recognize that, they continue to lose credibility.



And of course, not only do I believe we should have equal rights, I also believe we should have equal responsibility.



Clearly, when it comes to reproduction, due to the nature of biology, "equal" needs to be replaced with "fair".



For instance, I believe that both men and women should have the right to NOT be parents, even in the event that there is a pregnancy. That means very different things depending on whether you are the mother or the father, but the net-net should be the same.



She has the right to abort. He doesn't have any right to stop her.



He should have the right to say "OK, you can continue you to term, but you have no right to expect me to be any help what-so-ever."



Just because she has a belief system that abhors abortion doesn't mean she should have the right to expect him to pay for HER inability to keep her legs closed any more than he should have the right to expect her to bring a baby to abortion that she doesn't want just because his beliefs abhor abortion.



No feminist will agree with the above because it means that women would have to give something up which they never Never NEVER have agreed to. The result of feminism is to ALWAYS improve things for women (or at least in their minds to improve things for women) and they can cite no evidence to the contrary. It is NEVER OK to make things worse for women to improve things for men. Ever.



This is what allows people to say such trash as "Making things equal for women IS making things equal for everybody".
?
2016-09-20 19:54:11 UTC
I support the equal rights amendment and that means by its title that its equal rights for everyone.
?
2016-09-20 15:47:00 UTC
Equality dear.
anonymous
2016-09-20 10:56:26 UTC
Legally speaking, I support equal rights for everyone (as long as they are morally correct and suitable).



But personally, I believe that a compassionate patriarchy is really the best way for the world to survive and live in happiness. I like to express my views on this; and would hate not having the freedom to express them. I like to live my life this way. But I also realize that in the country I live in, I cannot force others to live this way, and that it would be wrong for me to force them.



So, I will preach, teach and vote based on these two aspects of rights and freedoms.
?
2016-09-21 01:11:30 UTC
If men can get pregnant, then I support equal rights for everyone. Now rights for women!
?
2016-09-20 11:50:56 UTC
I support equal rights for everyone. But given that some things cannot be achieved simply by declaring them to be so (eg fair treatment of women and minorities in hiring), sometimes it is necessary to give a group apparently "special" rights simply to make sure that they actually, in the long run/on average, have *equal* rights. If that makes sense.



Now, things like that need to be carefully monitored and adjusted to make sure they genuinely are just compensating for disadvantages, rather than creating a counter-advantage, but they can be a valuable tool for at least somewhat countering hard-to-control disadvantages like individual prejudice.
?
2016-09-20 11:14:03 UTC
Equal rights for everyone.



No excuses. No ifs, ands or buts. No exceptions.
anonymous
2016-09-21 11:43:10 UTC
Giving the same things equally to everyone would make sense if we were starting from a level playing field. But we aren't!



Picture a scale, with one gram on one side, and two grams on the other. If you place an additional gram on each side, the scale will still not be balanced! You would have to add more to the one gram side, or take away from the two gram side. Now imagine the two gram side sees this and says "Hey, what the heck?! Why are you saying you want equality and then giving them more? Or worse, trying to take things from us!?"... Okay, the metaphor falls apart there, but hopefully it gets the idea across.



I DO want equal rights for everyone, but until we get there, trying to balance the scale might look kind of unfair.
anonymous
2016-09-20 13:24:21 UTC
No such thing as "equal rights for everyone".



Those 30 Million enslaved around the 🌎, those working multiple jobs, those diagnosed with cancer as children; what about their equality?



Life isn't fair, neither should we be; look through my eyes and you'll see what I see!



😀 😀 😌 😀
ʄaçade
2016-09-20 12:31:03 UTC
All laws, regulations, and public policies should be neutral with regard to gender, ethnicity, marital status, sexual orientation, and percussion style.



Equalismâ„¢
?
2016-09-21 11:44:45 UTC
Both. I also support boy's rights, and father's rights, and animal rights, and the rights for the blind, maimed, handicapped, and the right of way, and really all sorts of issues, that need special attention.
?
2016-09-21 02:35:04 UTC
Equal rights for women and equal rights for everyone is the same. When you ONLY look at the way laws are written and ignore the sexism or the people who implement them - it's NOT equal rights. Thinking everything is fine because the laws look OK but still promote or ignore discrimination against women is NOT equal rights.



When you limit equal rights to ONLY LAWS, are you ignoring discrimination against women that happens in spite of these flawed laws and thus are skewing your conception of "equal rights" to really be about keeping men on top and continuing the real and constant discrimination against women?
?
2016-09-20 11:17:32 UTC
What special rights are feminists asking for?
luke
2016-09-20 20:08:49 UTC
equal rights f0r every0ne. right n0w there ar emany rights w0men have 0ver men, and thta is wr0ng and sexist
Chris
2016-09-21 20:47:48 UTC
Genders are just a label
Gabriel Maglantay
2016-09-21 17:42:12 UTC
rights for harambe because harambe is bae

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Naguru
2016-09-21 22:15:20 UTC
I don't want to antagonize women. Because it will be disadvantageous to me.
?
2016-09-23 12:27:18 UTC
I think that if you go looking for a problem, then you will find one.
bobby
2016-09-20 12:58:16 UTC
Where
anonymous
2016-09-20 10:46:31 UTC
Anyone who isn't a feminists, should be f*cked to death.


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