ladies is it wrong that i think women and children should always go off the titanic first?
anonymous
2009-05-06 18:43:44 UTC
Mans natural instinct to provide, protect and care for his family genetically imprinted. Ladies would you be proud of a masculine man that let you off first?
22 answers:
Black Kitten
2009-05-06 21:31:04 UTC
I think your view is perfectly normal. I agree with it. I agree that should be the rule in general.
I also agree with Goose who stated she would most likely not be able to leave her man. That is me 100%. I wouldn't be able to leave my man, I would stay by his side to the end and be happy with my decision.
There were women on the Titanic that did stay of their own free will. Women who wouldn't leave their man. Mrs. Levi Strauss for one. I also believe Mrs.Vanderbilt stayed on-board.
All that being said I was a Flight Attendant Continental Airlines and I was trained and prepared to assist all passengers off the plane before myself (that included men) The flight crew is the last to leave.
I don't value my life over anyone else, especially if I could save a mother or father to a child over myself. I have no children and I know your children need you.
anonymous
2009-05-07 07:58:54 UTC
Re: icevixen's comment, I think it would be best to say, "women WITH children first". It was the social grace at the time, but now I think the most logical method would be to let those off least likely to survive on their own first. Unaccompanied children, then children with their mother (women are still the primary caregivers of their children and are able to provide necessities males cannot), then the elderly and disabled and the already injured. From there, you need to determine who would most likely survive. As a whole (this is not a personal opinion) males are physically stronger and would weather minor injuries better and last longer in the water. From there, I believe the women who felt they were the strongest/most able-bodied amongst the women should stay; and (as Sabrina K pointed out) those who have training and knowledge of the vessel that may allow them to survive longer and to assist those who don't).
anonymous
2009-05-06 20:31:35 UTC
well you are entitled to your opinion. I think that forsure the children should go first. But not necessarily the women over the men. If I had a husband and child, I think that I would want to save my kid fist. But I dont think that I could leave my husband if he had to stay back. But who knows what would be going through your mind in a life and death situation like that. Maybe you would be rational and thing about who should go first an get to live. Or maybe you would just make sure you and your family were safe, regardless of the situation around you - its sounds selfish but i guess ultimately the only thing that is important, when there is a life and death situation, is that you and your loved ones are safe.
RoVale
2009-05-06 20:07:05 UTC
I think the third class passengers should have had as much of a chance to get off the Titanic as the first class passengers did. There were entire families in third class that went down with the ship so obviously, nobody cared that much about women and children when it came to them.
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2016-10-20 01:59:29 UTC
On April twelfth. 1912 the international replaced right into a distinctive place. women folk weren't equivalent to adult adult males. They have been seen a marginally helpless and additionally if conceivable ought to proceed to exist to look after the infants. It wa seen as a guy's place to guard women folk and teenagers. it replaced into basically carried out that way. A be conscious Chivalry. no longer used lots at present. whilst adult adult males risk-free any woman and infant an element of the area of being male. even with the undeniable fact that ladies folk weren't equivalent to adult adult males in some techniques, they have been esteemed in others like motherhood etc. So in those days, maximum adult adult males might have seen it as maximum unmanly to maintain one's very own life on the rate of a woman or infant. i think of alot of present day adult adult males if push got here to shove might safeguard greater susceptible individuals of society in a disaster. wonderful to think of so besides. besides, 1912 replaced into yet another era with some stable factors and a few undesirable. Gld i do no longer ought to placed on the corsets those women folk wore.
anonymous
2009-05-06 19:39:08 UTC
Your opinion is not wrong.
I agree that children should go first, but not necessarily women. If my "Masculine Man" let me off first (which I know he would because he cares for me), I would be grateful, but at the same time miserable knowing that he would not likely join me. It is horrible to be the one left behind.
ghostygirl
2009-05-08 08:13:41 UTC
NO it's not wrong for women and children go first on the Titanic.Think about it the women were wearing Corsets that went to their thighs and long tight dresses,who could survive wearing that,not to mention most women were not active and wouldn't have the muscle to swim for long,if they could swim at all. I would hate to leave my Husband but if it was to protect my kids you bet I would. I would be proud of anyone who gave up their seat to someone who needed it.I wish more men would act like this.I don't want to be equal with men,I'm quite happy to serve my Husband.
icevixen17
2009-05-06 22:12:47 UTC
even today i hear people say "women and children first" with children it makes sense there helpless they cant fend for themselves women are perfectly capable ive never got why more women aren't offended by being grouped in the same category as children
anonymous
2009-05-06 18:53:16 UTC
If I were in a burning wreck of a plane - or a sinking ship - I would like to think (however idealistically it may seem) that children - and therefore their mothers - should have first dibs on safety and I would help them.
Who knows what the reality is when confronted with that?
A woman was interviewed on the BBC about being the survivor of a plane crash in Manchester, UK. The plane burst into flames taxiing and she scrambled over several people to get out because people behind her were being burnt to death and she suffered terrible guilt because she admitted knocking other people (weaker people) to one side to escape the flames.
Who wouldn't? Politeness and protocol vanishes when you are being scalded by fire.
anonymous
2009-05-06 18:48:42 UTC
I'm not sure if men let the women go to safety first to gain social currency. They just wanted their wards to be safe.
Since my BDSM lifestyle role gives me some similar mentality to that of olden days men, I'd like to point out that, when you have someone who is yours, you're quite protective of them. It'd be far worse to let your girl die than to die yourself. It's more or less the same feeling as losing a child. (Actually, it's almost exactly the same, being why it was women -and-children, not one then the other.)
Ruth
2009-05-06 20:38:48 UTC
it's not wrong, it's an opinion, but i disagree.
if a guy let me live i'd be grateful and relieved (nobody wants to die), but proud? i wouldn't think a guy were any less masculine if he pushed me off the boat and saved himself, i mean yea he'd be a huge asshole, but that has nothing to do with his masculinity.
i think what our society says is masculine is a joke. you don't have to hold doors open for us, you don't have to die for us, you don't have to do dick for us. gender equality is about just that- equality! it doesn't mean you can't treat women nicely, but you shouldn't treat them nicely just because they are women- you should do it because they are people.
Rebecca W
2009-05-06 19:13:52 UTC
I would be proud of a man who sacrificed to allow me life. I would be grateful and remember that sacrifice every day. If someone sacrificed to save my child's life that feeling would double. Despite what so many seem to think, I believe that in a crunch, most men would still make this ultimate sacrifice.
Beep--awesome explanation.
anonymous
2009-05-06 18:49:01 UTC
I think they should let the children off first, but with a family member, whether it be a man or a woman.
holawhatsup
2009-05-06 18:52:46 UTC
it's not wrong that you think that, regardless of what happened. You thinking that is your personal opinion, and you are entitled to think what you want without people criticizing it. It's also good that that you are asking this, because it means you are able to see multiple points of view, which means you have an open mind :)
Louise C
2009-05-06 23:41:58 UTC
Yes, it is very sinful of you to hold this belief. It is patronising and sexist. Men should cast women and children aside and rush to the lifeboats in the name of 'equality'. It's every man, woman, and child for themselves in today's world.
Untamed Rose
2009-05-06 19:39:51 UTC
How about we not be dumb and have enough life boats for everyone...then we can just file off in orderly fashion not caring who got on the boat first, last or 132.
tada problem solved.
No I would not be proud of my "masculine man" I'd be livid...he better get his butt in the boat with me.
Rollie H
2009-05-06 20:14:56 UTC
As soon as you let the women off first and then you die, the women will be talking about you immediately: "he so ugly!" blah blah blah
jkb :) :( :@
2009-05-06 18:53:28 UTC
any one responsible for other people should sacrifice for their charges. whether it is women, men, rich, or poor, if you accept the responsibility of being a leader, sacrifice is a part of the job requirements. i just don't feel that the women man dynamic has much to do with anything. honestly i would feel guilty that someone died for me.
anonymous
2009-05-06 19:10:54 UTC
Children yes.
Women not so much. I can't see myself leaving my guy behind. I don't think I could abandon him.
anonymous
2009-05-07 03:33:39 UTC
Hell no, if im in a situation like that I will push everyone out of my way and make sure I can save myself first.
Daniel
2009-05-06 19:11:40 UTC
sacrifice yourself for them, buy them a house, give them kids, a ring, and be a good sport when they take it all away in the divorce. But gosh darn it treat them like equals.
anonymous
2009-05-06 19:09:31 UTC
Survival of the fittest, baby!
I hope there are no women and children around if I'm ever in such a situation. They WILL be knocked down.
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