Question:
Why is the threat of withdrawal affection often used to prevent men from speaking up for their rights?
Loki
2013-12-17 07:10:24 UTC
Like saying things such as :

• “Creeps like you will never get laid!”
Or saying that if someone is a MRA, their significant other would dump them,

Why would any man even want to be with a woman who wont let him speak up for his rights, and tries to silence him by shaming him?
Thirteen answers:
?
2013-12-17 07:57:31 UTC
"Why is the threat of withdrawal affection often used to prevent men from speaking up for their rights?"



Because we live in a society where girls have their self esteem plumped up by society, and whilst boys are groomed to see themselves as disposable.



Seriously, there's a reason that t-shirts and books didn't come out saying "Girls Are Stupid Throw Rocks At Them." There's a reason, when Jeff Foxworthy decided to do a bit about beautiful babies and ugly babies, the beautiful baby happened to be his daughter, and the ugly baby happened to be a "friend's" son! There's a reason that film and TV shows depict boys/men without girls/women as unhappy, or boys/men who take girls/women for granted as being filled with regret...



...and that reason seems to be because society has groomed men to be kept in line by women first and foremost...and barring that, by the state.



So is it any wonder that shaming language is a key tool in the arsenal of women who try to discourage men from views, opinions and values that run afoul of anything questioning the superiority of women and the inferiority of men?



"Why would any man even want to be with a woman who wont let him speak up for his rights, and tries to silence him by shaming him?"



Because those men have been conditioned to believe that women are the keys to happiness, and not siding with women on issues like feminism...is a quick, easy way to lose that "happiness."



Of course how happy are those same men if they are one of the roughly 40% of men who marry, who end up getting dumped by their wives, and losing most of their material possessions, as well as regular access to their kids? Because after all, in a Western world where more than half of all marriages end in divorce, and women file for divorce anywhere from 70-80% of the time, there's around a 40% chance that if you're married man, you're going to at some point be a divorced man.
?
2013-12-17 07:58:36 UTC
I guess it depends on what rights you are talking about and how you bring up talking about them. So often men's rights are brought up in a way to attempt to negate women's rights. This is really not fair to women who are still doormats so often and discriminated against so so so much and it isn't right to pretend that their issues don't matter either - only yours.



The men's rights movement has attacked women's rights and feminism constantly and unfairly non-stop and this does not make their message very strong. The message so completely selfish and inconsiderate saying - "I WANT MY RIGHTS and SCREW YOURS" - it's in the woman's face - it's nasty and mean and it accomplishes nothing but bad feelings and the "withdrawal of affection" becomes a natural response if you attack someone's rights to get what you want.



Men should have rights for sure and women should accept that but they should not have to accept attacks from men non-stop all the time on their rights. If men treat women so shamelessly like that, they should not expect support or affection because they are being jerks.
?
2013-12-17 07:46:05 UTC
Such statement are one of many logic fallacy techniques often used by feminists. If you can't address the actual issue your opponent makes, personally attacking the person is one way to divert attention away from the actual issue.



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Mark big sky boat man
2013-12-17 07:19:25 UTC
It's an unfair way to get what you want, dump her.

I don't have any problem speaking up for my rights, or other peoples.
?
2013-12-17 07:20:05 UTC
It's not a threat. It's a deduction based on experience in real life. Hateful, defensive, butthurt people who lash out at others and blame them for their problems are usually also lonely and disliked.
anonymous
2013-12-17 07:30:12 UTC
it's a kind of projection really. it only works on younger men who aren't yet experienced and liberated, sexually. all it takes is for you to get laid once and then that line never again works.
?
2013-12-17 07:17:58 UTC
Because it works against too many men. It is the one weakness that men have versus women, but it's a big one.
Leo D
2013-12-17 07:47:33 UTC
If you consider getting laid affection, commentary isnt your problem
anonymous
2013-12-17 07:18:56 UTC
many feminists just have a bad attitude. we know this already.



yeah, they will say things like "you'll never get laid" - or .. call MRAs "neckbeards" (what does that even mean ??)



hell, feminists are so stupid - they used to criticise Margeret Thatcher about her hair and dress sense. can you believe this ? the first female prime minister of the united kingdom - way back in 1979 - feminists are gonna make fun of her hair. urgh.
dark eyes
2013-12-17 07:25:35 UTC
He can speak up as loud as he wants, but I don't have to be there to listen to it... See how nicely that works out for both?
True Blue Brit
2013-12-17 07:23:11 UTC
Could you refer to a question in which this is the response? Sometimes the questions and answers are very sexist, with attitudes that are quite neanderthal.



I wouldn't dump my partner but I wouldn't be with him if he was sexist.
anonymous
2013-12-17 07:16:13 UTC
which rights are men aspiring to have? *baffled face*



I am 100% a creepshamer tho. Why should i be all like 'awww' over men who literally give me the heebie jeebies?
Lisbeth Salander
2013-12-17 07:22:23 UTC
"Lol, who'll rape you?" is worse by a huge margin.


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