Question:
Is there an asterisk next to all women's successes today?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Is there an asterisk next to all women's successes today?
Six answers:
ʄaçade
2013-07-10 02:11:48 UTC
You are clearly asking about Angela Merkel. And you feel her success is tainted by unfair favouritism. She is with the CDU, you know Right?





Added: She is arguably the most powerful woman in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel
Anonymous
2013-07-10 03:07:00 UTC
No.



You're making the assumption that women have egos the size of small planets and actually care if men who are against AA think they deserve their successes or not...because it really is only men who are against AA who are probably going to put the asterisk next to the entire female gender's success.



Not all women have gotten preferential treatment and in many cases women have had to deal with extreme sexism to reach success.



Some would argue that any preferential treatment women did get was outweighed by the amount of discrimination she was subjected to.



If there should be an asterisk next to all women's successes today, then there should be an asterisk next all men's successes 30 years ago and before that, specifically because men were very obviously given preference over women in the workforce...and white men were given preference over all other men so if ever there should be an asterisk, it should be on the successes of white men in Western society.



BQ: Like I said before, white men have always been given preferential treatment in Western society so put an asterisk next to their success and I don't think most women would mind if you put an asterisk next to theirs also.



Edit:

Purposely keeping women out of the workforce for so long gave men a huge advantage toward being successful. It was a monopoly on success...yet many men still have the nerve to come here and ask why so few women have invented anything throughout history. Most men don't seem to have a problem claiming full success for things that were invented and accomplished while women were purposely kept out of the workforce, why exactly should women feel less proud of their accomplishments nowadays compared to the huge advantage men used to have?



Put an asterisk next to Einstein and we'll call it even.



Edit:

Most colleges didn't even permit women to be in their programs in the past. Are you saying you were unaware of that? Laws are not needed in order to discriminate against minority and vulnerable groups if one particular group (white males) are determined and capable of only hiring people of their particular type when given the option. It's called human nature. Value has very little to do with it if they are not judging the individual for what that individual is capable of and are only keeping them out specifically because of the genitals they were born with.

http://www.northnet.org/stlawrenceaauw/college.htm



Edit:

Okay, so then everything done by men 150 years ago and before should have an asterisk? Is that what you're admitting to then?



It's clear you're not willing to admit that opening colleges to women would have had very little effect on actually encouraging families to pay for a woman to get an education, since the chances of that woman actually being able to make a living from that education and making the investment worthwhile was very slim. So we'll just put an asterisk 150 years ago and before and agree there is a very good reason for doing so, right?



Edit:

If people did not have set perceptions about what a woman or racial minority is capable of, it wouldn't be necessary to insist that people be judged by their individual capabilities instead of by the stereotypes associated with their particular group.
scabs
2013-07-10 02:24:19 UTC
it seems more appropriate to asterisk the successes of those who helped implement (or benefited from) the unjust system to begin with.



BA: there will always be a segment of every population who gets by without exerting as much effort as their peers - and we are all aware of this. truly successful people have nothing to prove.
?
2013-07-10 02:08:52 UTC
Nope. Well, unless you're a bigot. Neither is there one by white people's or men's, even if antifeminists like to pretend everyone puts one next to white people's and men's.



Wait, but the most hindering qualities are being white and a man, right? It holds people back. Damn my whiteness! If only I were like, a handicapped, lesbian woman from Honduras I'd be a senator now! Those b****es have it MADE.



People are so stupid for putting that pretend asterisk by white people and men! They should praise them even more than they already do!
NUM63R5
2013-07-10 03:06:56 UTC
Oh, because a woman can't really achieve anything if it weren't for the mind and substance of a male?



As if, we really should praise men for being the ones who basically dominate every penny that is part of the greed that is our world?



Yeah without women you wouldn't be here, so I'd say we're pretty equal in that spot.



If you're implying that men should only be taken seriously and not women, then why is our world in the shape it is...
?
2013-07-09 19:43:29 UTC
Everyone's success can be asterisked. Corruption is widespread and it affects both men and women.



Favoritism of women (discrimination of men) is usually mandated by law, which is scary; favoritism of men (discrimination of women) usually happens on a "subconscious" level; people have been so used to seeing men on almost all positions of importance that they see men as the quality baseline for pretty much everything - terrible, but not as scary as the former.

Pretty much as the difference between racism being common, despite society recognizing its negativity, and Apartheid, legalizing and legislating racism.


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