Question:
Why does the American tabloids calls Lena Dunham a "feminist icon" just because she's always naked & constantly screws guys on her show but?
Kayla
2014-09-17 17:00:35 UTC
when Nicki Minaj booty shakes in her music video "Anaconda" people call her a slut? And saids she's not helping feminism. Beyonce is also called out for being half naked in her concerts. So my question here is, why is Lena Dunham praised as a "feminist" for being naked and screwing guys on camera but Beyonce is constantly judged just for wearing revealing clothes, although she has been involved in more charity work than Dunham and has also made many songs to uplift women and girls, such as "Independent woman", "Survivior", "Who rule the world" etc
http://mic.com/articles/29106/lena-dunham-why-s-she-a-feminist-icon-instead-of-beyonce

A so called male feminist named Hadley Freeman has also contradicted himself by praising Lena Dunham for "empowering women" by doing absolutely nothing but being naked on camera, but bashed Beyonce for her revealing costumes
Six answers:
?
2014-09-17 20:31:23 UTC
Well, tabloids are trash filled with trash written by trash writers, that's why.



And yes, most people will only call it empowering when the female is not "hot", which is incredibly sexist. This is the sexism you get from women, towards women. Women are only threatened by women hotter than them, and women attack in predictable ways. So Beyonce's called slutty because she's typically gorgeous, while Lena's called brave because those people calling her brave think they're more attractive than she is.



It's bullshiz. It's still valuing women for their bodies, it's reducing women to their appearance. Lena Dunham's an icon because she's this bonkers girl that makes stories about people you don't necessarily like, but are interested in. Not because she's willing to show off her average boobs. And Beyonce's an icon because she's vocal about what she's passionate about and seems like a really nice lady, not because she looks really good half naked.
maria
2015-01-18 01:59:28 UTC
Lena is an "intellectual" or at least she's trying... (I guess), she's a hipster and "feminist", that's why. Racist, maybe. But it's all about the image they want to sell.



Nicki Minaj tries to be the crazy junkie *****.



P.S. I believe Dunham is cool but too narcisist. Also she's just too spoiled by two very open minded parents. Just a rich girl who thinks the world goes around her, just like Hannah in Girls.
Orcaking75
2014-09-17 17:40:31 UTC
I think its cause its cause Beyonce and Nicki are seen more by young teens than Lena Dunham. And people who usually criticize those are probably the same ones praising Lena Dunham. Also, I think people praise Lena Dunham because she more average lookimg and comes across more intellectual in her show. To some hard core feminist, being more sexual and being provacative is feminist, because they believe men get by with it.
nurgle69
2014-09-17 17:10:03 UTC
i think partly that lena dunham is not conventionally attractive, although hardly flat out ugly, Beyonce is much more conventionally attractive, her (Beyonce) nudity is seen as being more in-line with typical male desires, a part of the system, as opposed to a dissident, i.e Lena uses her position to give herself naked roles, that men probably would not offer her unlike the huge offers beyonce could/does get.





ones is a radical notion compared to the other.



Lena is in reverse told to put clothes back on, i.e don't take them off to begin with love, beyonce will get screaming hordes for her sexual displays.
anonymous
2014-09-17 17:17:40 UTC
Racism pure and simple.



I could get into the precise reasons but it's truly appalling on numerous levels and completely disgusting as well so I'm not sure I should.



Should I go into detail or can I just leave it at "racism":(?



Okay, detail: basically white people still view black peoples' bodies as things that should be controlled (by white people). As we all know, for 300 years, American culture viewed black people as inferior to whites. That disease of bigotry doesn't disappear in a mere 60 years. And it is present in every aspect of our society including feminism.



White people perceive black sexuality as threatening to white peoples' privileged place in society. How can white women still be "the best" if Beyoncé is acknowledged to be sexier than white women? How can white men be "the best" if white women are dating black guys?



Just look at all the paranoid white boy comments here about white women leaving them for black guys.



Just look at Kyle's insistence that black men should be stereotyped on an individual basis because of overall black v. white rape offender rates.



Celebration of (or even mere acceptance of) black sexuality (male or female) threatens white peoples' privileged place in society (from their pov). From their pov, the only way black sexuality is acceptable is on white terms, or expressed through white people (Elvis' persona; basically the entire concept of a white rock star is based off if white people stealing black musicians' moves, personas, musical styles: even stealing entire songs).



So whether they are doing it consciously or not, many white people get weird and hypocritical when it comes to black and white women, black and white bodies, black and white sexuality, and how that relates to Beckyism *cough* feminism.



They're in denial if the fact that both white and black women can be viewed as equally sexy and the sky won't cave in.



Besides white women have always had a stranglehold on "Beckyism". They think they get to call the shots about who is feminist and who is not. And a lot of them, consciously or unconsciously, are racist.



So again, my answer is racism.



Appalling and disgusting as I originally said:(



nurgle, you're British and considerably more progressive than the average white guy.



Or am I wrong? Are we talking about Brits? I thought it was USA. And Madame, what is your perspective on this matter? How would you answer your question?
?
2014-09-17 20:19:07 UTC
Compared with the neo-puritan pretend "rad" fems, this insipid Hollywood jerk actually IS a little better.



But of course, that's not saying very much.


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