Question:
Why do anti-feminists believe that women should take responsibility for their part in being raped e.g.?
sam
2011-05-08 14:47:52 UTC
drinking alcohol, but that men should not have to take responsibility for being accused of raping e.g. by having casual sex?
Fourteen answers:
?
2011-05-08 15:15:37 UTC
I love how many people do not understand this question. Keep asking it, they still won't get it, but I'll still laugh reading their responses. circular logic, lmao. That is a better misuse of a term for a fallacy in argument than The Grappler's bizarre and ironic misunderstanding of anecdotal evidence.
?
2011-05-08 14:49:11 UTC
This assumes a man has to participate in casual sex to be accused of rape...



Edit: You do know that there is a difference between "these precautions could reduce the chances of" and "because you did this, you deserved to..." right? Not that I agree or work with with these types of arguments most of the time, just making a point.
♫Grappler's Crossing ♂ ♪
2011-05-08 15:09:21 UTC
(The World's Greatest Anti-feminist takes the podium, adjusts the microphone).....



"Firstly - let me say this - my views are my own and have no bearing on the views of others. As I've said many times before, every person who has come to Anti-feminism, the only remaining true feminism there is in the world today, has done so for their own reasons. Those reasons are not necessarily mine.



It is not therefore possible to view Anti-feminists as in any way a monolithic group. Anti-feminism, as opposed to feminism - (thank you) - is not an organised movement - it is a grouping of like-minded individuals, all working separately towards a common good.



Secondly - let me say this. Despite rhetoric and rubbish to the contrary - if anyone chooses to go out and get drunk and then engage in sex - this is NOT rape. This is consensual sex between two drunk people - and to even begin to suggest that one is responsible while the other is not is ridiculous. I have no doubt that many a man, suffering the throes of hangover, has muttered to himself - "Damn - who was that dog I slept with last night?" (shunders).



While this may constitute regret - it does not by any stretch of the imagination extend to the idea that the woman - or 'dog' - has raped him because he was drunk. He was willing at the time - there is no excuse - so he'd better just forget going down to the local cop station and lodging a complaint.



If - on the other hand - he was UNCONSCIOUS due to drink - and was then set upon by a woman who saw a convenient erection - that is rape.



I think we all need to be perfectly clear about this! The concept of 'drunken rape' does not extend to consensual sex between two pissed partners.



Any country that says it does is a sick Fascist state in need of invasion by Humanity!



Thank you".
anonymous
2011-05-08 15:06:23 UTC
Many women get drunk and have CONSENSUAL sex-- that is not rape-- but the next day, out of embarrassment and lesbo-fascist indoctrination claim it was rape after the fact. That is actually a false rape accusation. So you are saying that women should not be held accountable for their illegal actions? That when women commit heinous crimes against men which result in loss of job, loss of career, loss of home, loss of family, and sometimes brutal homosexual gang rapes, that women should not be prosecuted?



Just do a search or think for a second about all of the times women have falsely accused men of rape for consensual sex... remember the Duke Lacrosse incident for one? Or the college girl that had sex with 5 guys in a dorm at once, but when her boyfriend asked about it, it suddenly was rape and 5 black kids were arrested and would have spent decades in prison if one had not videotaped the little whore in the act? There are literally scores of thousands of other examples to be found as well.
anonymous
2011-05-08 14:55:45 UTC
What in the world are you talking about? I'm an anti-feminist and I think a woman getting raped is a terrible thing.
anonymous
2011-05-08 14:53:50 UTC
Where have you been?



I think both parties have a role to play.

Every action has a reaction.



And I dont blame victims. I dont say "Its your fault why you were raped." However I don't think its right for anyone to skirt around the obviousness of their role/involvement. I think this is what we call, denial.
anonymous
2011-05-08 14:50:31 UTC
Are you saying that men should take responsibility if they are falsely raped? Nobody even anti feminists want to blame a victim for being raped.
anonymous
2011-05-08 14:50:28 UTC
I don't think anyone's ever used the term "taking responsibility" when we've made this argument. Feminists have used it, and that's why you're so upset at us for "blaming the victim." All antis ever said is that everyone has common sense, so it wouldn't hurt women to use it once in a while.
anonymous
2011-05-08 14:54:56 UTC
Having casual sex is not "raping." Casual sex is sex between two consenting adults who do not plan on a long-term relationship. It seems nowadays that woman are changing the definition of rape to the point where just looking at a woman is sexual assault.



Women SHOULD take responsibility in their part for being raped



Do you really think it is sensible for a woman to



- Dress like a prostitute ?

- Go out alone in high criminal activity areas without someone to protect her ?

- Get drunk at a party in a bad part of town ?



Rape is easily avoidable if women used common sense sometimes. If I left my front door open at night when I slept, isn't it partly my fault if I am robbed ?
anonymous
2011-05-08 14:52:55 UTC
I am anti-feminist and my IQ dropped 10 points after reading the ridiculous load of bull you just wrote. Being anti-feminist doesn't mean one supports rape, blames a rape victim, is against women's rights, or any delusions feminists use to convince themselves they're righteous and just.
anonymous
2011-05-08 15:05:16 UTC
Because it's usually there fault. It's always the stupidest, ugliest girls at parties who get raped. This one chick at this one party even faked it. She goes into a room takes off all her clothes and claimed some guy raped her. There was no even down there.



And it was a party of like 10 people, and than she starts groping guys naked so we told her to get the fu ck out.



We were actually concerned at first.....believe or not until we realized no one would ever want to rape this chick and she was clearly not concerned about herself.
anonymous
2011-05-08 14:49:09 UTC
Psst thats a logical fallacy.
O.W.A.B - Deva Path
2011-05-08 14:51:40 UTC
Let me guess... you think EVERYONE who disagrees with you is a anti-feminist. Outside of a few trolls on here, I have never heard any one, let alone an anti-feminist with the view you are asking about.
me
2011-05-08 14:51:56 UTC
the same reason people who leave the car running are asked to take responsibility when it is stolen.


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