Why most of women don't take the male genital mutilation so serious?

Question

I recently studied about the male genital mutilation and found a lot of information about it.some people say it's cleaner to be circumcised but to be honest this is completely a myth because I don't shower more often the last time I showered was in yesterday before that I showered a two weeks ago the only thing I do wash my thing after peeing so yesterday when I was showering I noticed under my foreskin is more cleaner (no single smegma or any dirt) and better than rest of the body which is full of dirt. I asked from two girls do they wash their genital after peeing so they said me if they peed in public they simply wipe it and after came home wash it so this is how women manage to make their genital clean so why guys can't do the same thing? why mothers don't teach their sons to wash their thing after peeing? mutilation is NOT the answer.

some people say circumcision doesn't have any harmful side effects but this is again a complete myth. I interviewed a couple of circumcised guys who got circumcised as an adults they said me after got circumcised masturbation is a bit harder and it needs liquid to apply on the shaft and pleasure is reduced then I checked on British journal of urology
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2006.06685.x/abstract

and it confirmed what I found out. so basically circumcision reduces the sexual pleasure in considerable amount and it's competently unnecessary to perform for hygienic purpose. let's say you don't wash after peeing after got mutilated? then all your pee touches your cloth and make it dirty instead of the penis and since you are wearing it and cloth touches back the penis your penis will be dirty too we don't change our cloths always we wear one cloth for one day so you have to keep all your pee in your pant until at end of the day do you think this is hygienic? no it's not the better solution is WASH the penis right after peeing then both your cloth and penis will be clean. this is what women do in asia and other thing is I heard Americans people don't wash their butt hole with water after taking a dump so do you think this is hygienic? it's very funny how americans believe. they cut their penises for hygienic purpose but in other hand they don't even wash their butt after taking a dump this is so gross.

and foreskin has more functions like it protects the glans and it helpful to achieve the gliding mechanisms which increases the sexual pleasure of men http://www.circumstitions.com/Functions.html
it also protects the shaft and glans and prevent them from being keratinized. the bad thing of keratinization is it reduces the soft, tenderous nature of penis and then during penetration due to the hard nature of penis this can be uncomfortable for both partners specially for women. if the woman is properly wet then it would be fine but after 45 (average) many women tend to experience vaginal dryness so after this age sex can be somewhat painful and less pleasure without lube.

then there are more arguments that circumcision stops HPV but the solution for HPV is taking a vaccination against it not the mutilation and some says circumcision reduces the risk of having HIV but the solution for HIV is not having sex with strangers and wear condoms and limit the sexual activities to one partner so judging by all facts it's quite obvious circumcision is unnecessary and it's also harmful.

and in world wide there is a false belief that female circumcision is worse, harmful and somewhat horrific than male circumcision but this is a compete myth and some believe (specially western people who are brainwashed by feminist propaganda) women are usually circumcised like in africa with blades. but they forgot in africa not just women men are also circumcised with blades, and rocks
WARNING highly graphic images -
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/29/south-africa-doctor-website-botched-male-circumcision-criticised
http://ulwaluko.co.za/Photos.html
but recently many western organizations provide them sanitary items and trained doctors to perform the male circumcision instead of educating them to ban the practice and in other hand the same western organizations insist african countries to ban the female circumcision. in african they mostly practice the clitrodectomy or infibulation but according to this research
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17970975

Group of 137 women, affected by different types of female circumcision.
- 86% have orgasms
- 69.23% always have orgasms
- 91.23% of the younger women have orgasms
- 14 out of 15 infibulated report orgasms
- Infibulated women showed the same desire, arousal, & satisfaction
- No differences observed between circumcised and not regarding pain

PMID: 17970975 [PubMed - for MEDLINE]

86% women can still achieve the orgasm even after subjected to infibulation.

Answer 1

Got tired of reading. I'll stick with something shorter like Atlas Shrugged or War and Peace.



But I did notice a lot of factual errors before I got to the "tl" part. First, being circumcised doesn't make masturbation harder or cause lubrication to be required. Second, circumcision in very much mainstream in the US, yet somehow or other a lot of guys are still horndogs. Doesn't make sense if they're not experiencing significant sexual pleasure (as in enough to engage in behavior that carries a high risk of unwanted consquences.) Third, you object to what you call "mutilation" and then suggest vaccination as an alternative. The HPV vaccine is dangerous and has limited effectiveness. It has caused debilitating side effects in thousands of young women, That's a lot closer to "mutiliation" than removing a small piece of skin.

Answer 2

Do yourself one small favour: read up on the number of vaginal infections amongst Jewish and Muslim women versus all others in the world.



Oh, there is another favour you can do yourself: read up on the recent research amongst blacks in South Africa regarding transmission of AIDS by circumcised men versus uncircumcised men. I was fortunate enough to have a long conversation with one of the moderators (I think that is the correct term... like peer review) of the research, Professor Doctor Eddie Wolff who told me "The published results don't tell half the story. There is so much political pressure from government on this subject, based upon cultural sensitivity because most black South Africans don't believe in circumcision, that the published results were toned down to be less provocative".



Whether you like it or not, the simple fact is: if you want to increase your wife's chances of reproductive-system cancer, don't get circumcised! Conversely, if you want to decrease the chances, you should get circumcised.



Which, by the way, is NOT to suggest that you should get circumcised by a Xhosa "traditional healer" using the edge of a rusty spearhead (believe it or not), without disinfectant, after seventeen other people have been circumcised with the very same implement in the past couple of hours, and then spend a month wandering through the bush half-naked without food to prove that you are a man. That is just plain, old-fashioned, common or garden, S-T-U-P-I-D.



Do you need me to mention that the spears are made of mild steel, not tool steel or surgical steel, and they are sharpened with files or rocks, not whetted on whetstones, so what the amaXhosa regard as a "razor-sharp" edge is what you and I would call effing BLUNT?!



To compare traditional African technology with what the Jews and muslims have been doing with fewer casualties than the proportional number of casualties (by uterine infection) of women in non-Jewish and non-Muslim communities for thousands of years is DAFT. That was very silly of you.





To answer your question, most women don't take male circumcision seriously because most women are far more sensible than you are.

Answer 3

It's not a matter of being more or less serious, I think it has a lot more to do with the circumstances, how, and most of all *why* female genital mutilation occurs. I majorly disagree with circumcision as well, it's awful, but it's not the same.

Answer 4

Male circumcision sometimes has to be performed for medical reasons, done in hospital by skilled doctors has no side effects. You talk about being clean, circumcision for men keeps the male genitalia cleaner because there is no foreskin to get infected. This does not effect their sex drive.

Female circumcision has no reason to be performed.

Circumcision is not mutilation unless performed by somebody other than a doctor.

It should not be performed just for the sake of any religious practice, but only on medical grounds.

You do seem to have done your research, I can only speak from life experience.

Answer 5

2 weeks and you haven't had a shower?

WTF

Answer 6

Circumcision for males is NOTHING like genital mutilation for women, not even close. It IS cleaner without the foreskin which harbors bacteria. The physiognomy is entirely different and mutilating a female does nothing but make her vulnerable to all sorts of infections. Also uncircumcised penises are HIDEOUS. Ugh.



MALE

Circumcision benefits include less risk for infection, better hygiene, and the idea that a circumcised penis looks better by western standards. In fact uncircumcised men often feel embarrassment and shame over their intact hood. Some even undergo a circumcision later in life, despite the extreme associated pain, just to feel accepted.



FEMALE

There are many different types of FGM, depending on how much of the outer clitoris and surrounding vaginal tissues are actually removed. The procedure can take place anywhere from birth on through the onset of puberty and typically involves using non-sterile items—like an old sharp knife or a piece of fresh-cut glass to make the incisions.



The reason for removing the ‘feel good’ part of the female genitalia is based on a belief that women with a full clitoris are not to be trusted and must be controlled and kept pure. For the most part, FGM removes the ability for women to enjoy sex as much as men, if at all. In fact FGM can make sex a forever painful and dangerous activity. The cultural implications outweigh the many risks associated with female gentile mutilation, making the trend a continued aspect of certain African cultures. It should be noted that as of 2012, in Kenya the Maasai, one of the oldest cultures in Africa, have ended their use of FGM as a part of the ritualistic rite of passage for females entering adulthood. Additionally, FGM is illegal in Kenya as well as other parts of Africa.





Negative side effects include extreme pain for the young women during, and long after, the procedure. FGM is most often performed in unsanitary conditions, leaving some girls with terrible infections and life-long reproductive health issues. These problems can stretch to include chronic urinary complications in the case that the urination hole is blocked or distorted due to faulty incision. Keep in mind, doctors do not perform these procedures.







Male circumcision is a very controversial topic now as far as elective circumcision, meaning circumcision that is performed that is non-religious, non-ritualistic and not medically necessary. A lot of people will liken male circumcision as genital mutilation, the same as female circumcision or female genital cutting.



Now, what I think is important to remember when one starts to compare male and female circumcision, is most of the time anaesthesia is used for male circumcision, of course higher instances with pediatricians than other types of doctors. Its also important to note that a male, with a standard circumcision barring no outside issues happening with the procedure, is able to maintain a normal sex life and orgasm normally. His ability to perform sexually is not affected by the loss of the foreskin. In fact, the American Academy of Pediatrics did a study in 1999 that actually stated that circumcised males tend to have a more varied sex life and are less likely to suffer from some form of sexual dysfunction.



Now, all of this brings us to Female Genital Cutting, also called Female Circumcision and Female Genital Mutilation. The term used depends on who is using it. Obviously, a term like “mutilation” would be best used by an individual who is against the practice while “female circumcision” sounds a lot nicer and would be used by an individual for the procedure.



Now, there are three types of female genital cutting which pretty much are named in degree of how much tissue was removed. In all instances, however, the clitoris is either cut or removed completely thus severing the females ability to orgasm normally. The mildest form is where the clitoral hood (equal to the male foreskin) is removed and the clitoris is is either split or completely removed. The most severe is called a Type III and in this case, the entire labia regions as well as clitoral are removed from the female. The Type III, sadly, was the most widely practiced and was viewed as a social custom rather than religious.



The Type III ends in the female’s legs being tied together so she can heal, leaving them nothing more than a sheet of skin with a hole large enough to urinate or menstrate through. The scarier aspect of this is that her future husband has a right to perform a reverse infibulation on her by using a knife on her to open her body back up to allow intercourse. If a woman delivers a baby, she is then cut open again and afterwards, must live through having her legs tied together again in order to allow the wound to heal.



There are Type IV FGCs; however these tend to be practiced for more ritualistic ceremonies and burning/scaring of the genitals is involved or pricking the clitoris with needles. There is also the practice of ripping the vagina open. Type IV is not widely practice and is generally isolated to very specific ethnic groups.



So, we know the US is known for male circumcision for non-medical, non-religious reasons. Who practices female circumcision (I don’t even like calling it that since so much more goes on than in male circumcision). Right now, Female Genital Cutting is primarily practiced in African countries. The most prevelant country being Somalia.



One of the major concerns is that female genital cutting is a very severe practice as far as exposing the female to outside contaminants; however, it is often practiced without anesthetic and under less than adequate conditions and often by individuals such as midwives rather than a physician. Egypt has actually recently outlawed female circumcision after a 12 year old girl died from the procedure, which was being carried out by a female physician in a private clinic.