Question:
Why does feminism still exist?
?
2015-09-23 13:03:49 UTC
It was good in the early 1900s but now it seems pointless for western countries... like men have problems women generally don't have, and women equally have problems men don't have but modern feminism seems sexist as it doesn't care when a women slaps a man but freaks out when a man slaps a women. Also, the wage gap is a myth sooooo... just why does it still exist?
Nine answers:
?
2015-09-23 13:21:32 UTC
As long as there's ugly women that are bitter because attractive men don't ask them out, there will be feminism.
.Jerry.
2015-09-23 18:54:37 UTC
"Why does feminism still exist?"



At this point in history, it’s only to keep collecting a paycheque by leeching off the taxpayer funding. The original Women’s Rights Activists fought for equal legal Rights for women back in a time when this was not the case. But today’s feminists are not the Women’s Rights Activists, nor are they the legacy of them despite their deceptive claims. We have had equal Rights for quite awhile now. Yet the feminists are still here agitating for their new mantra of “equality”, which sounds nice, but according to their methods is anything but equal for the genders.



Most people no longer believe they should support feminism because it has completely strayed off course, and no longer looks like the ideology it claims to be as per the dictionary definition. As we all know, Feminism has a terrible, but justified image as being about man-hating and bigoted inequality against men. If one is going to be honest with themselves, it is easy to admit this inconvenient truth. MOST feminists do not want to admit this, or worse, choose to defend or look for context for hate rather than call it out.



There has been 40+ years now of publicly recorded man-hating statements made by prominent feminists that have NEVER been called out by feminists of any stripe. This has gone completely unchallenged for so long now, that man-hating and misandry have become an accepted part of the feminist ideology.



You can read several examples of prominent feminists with their man hating statements here:

http://www.womenagainstmen.com/media/feminism-is-a-hate-group.html



Now ... EVERY SINGLE TIME a question like this comes up, so many feminists rush in to defend the supposed honour of this word by giving us the definition of Egalitarianism. This happens EVERY TIME, including on this answer right here. Those feminist adherents, like so many others are in such denial that they would rather believe; and also have us believe; that most people are ill-informed. Or that there is some form of logical disconnect with people who have received the wrong information about feminism. In other words, THEY are in DENIAL of the TRUTH about modern day feminism and it's bigotry, sexism and promotion of inequality. Even when public evidence is presented right in front of them.



Egalitarianism is Equality. Yet they do not fight for that. Feminism's first definition based on the earlier Women's Rights Activists mentions equality. But modern day feminism has added so many qualifiers to that, that MOST people would no longer be considered a *true* feminist in their eyes if they solely believe in equality, but deny their conspiracy theory of "Patriarchy". Or their idea that we live in a "rape culture". Or sway from their belief in their version of the wage-gap. And so many other things as well.



Most people DO believe in equality between the genders. Most people do NOT identify as feminists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/feminism-poll_n_3094917.html
sophieb
2015-09-23 19:32:33 UTC
actually here they were around in the late 1960's and were most helpful when the guys didn't come home from VietNam.



Slapping anyone (slapper/slappee no matter which gender) is against the law.

The wage gap is not a myth.

What other things did you want us to correct your misinformation on?
Jessica
2015-09-23 13:27:52 UTC
True feminism does care if a woman slaps a man. That's is obviously wrong. The point is equality. If someone is complaining about men and how awful they are, but not caring about how women behave, they are not a Feminist. Feminism exists to put right the inequalities inherent in a Patriarchal Society. And those inequalities are still very real.
2015-09-23 16:40:04 UTC
FeMENism is pointless, it's useless just like feMENists in a situation that requires intelligence. FeMENists train woMEN to feel entitled which is why they have no issue hitting men. Also you are correct about the wage gap, in that it doesn't reach 23% like they claim. It's actually 5-7% and only exists because women are less likely to ask for a raise. Guess what the average wage rise is for people who do ask for a raise....... 7%.
WaldoBC
2015-09-23 16:28:06 UTC
The most privileged, protected, and pampered demographic in history still think that they are victims. Feminists need to perpetuate the façade of victimhood. The perpetual lies regarding 'female oppression' (link1), 'male privilege', 'the pay gap' (link2), and 'the patriarchy' (link3) help maintain a false purpose for feminism to still exist. Also, these perpetual lies have caused me, and many others, to hate and criticize feminism.
Elana
2015-09-25 18:57:10 UTC
With respect to YAC's (tired) list:



Far more men are murdered than women, so even if women are murdered because they are women, you're still worse off murderwise if you're a guy.



Men suffer far more destructive "objectification" in the media than women - women are objectified as being required to be thin and beautiful, whereas men are (at least in commercials) stupid, lazy and evil, and always need to be rescued by women. One is a positive (though destructive to try to obtain) model, the other is purely negative: simply that men are bad.



Men suffer far more violence than women generally. They are also verbally abused more than women though we entirely ignore that.



It IS true that women suffer more trafficking. Period. Absolutely inarguable.



More women live in poverty but the VAST majority of homeless are men. The majority of savings and trusts are controlled by women, which is to say that with the exception of the 1%, women are on average richer than men.



Women earn less because they do less billable work as defined in a capitalist society. Sure, sometimes they face discrimination, but men face MORE discrimination. The .77 cents on the dollar is based on the career decisions that women make, choosing parenting over career, eldercare over career, etc.



Yes, women CHOOSE to do the lion's share of unpaid word in our society. However, most of this unpaid word tends to be the types of work that women are more likely to want to do (service). In the cases where the unpaid work is construction etc, surprise, men tend to do it. In any case, it's a CHOICE.



Yes, if you make the choice of motherhood and negotiate with your partner to spend a huge amount of time taking care of children, you will definitely pay for it with a lower end salary, less social security, etc.



Mothers RIGHTFULLY suffer discrimination from employers. That is, employers are entitled to protect themselves from likely scheduling issues with their employees. Since having children is a choice, since it is not society's obligation to fund a family's choice, the idea that employers should bend over backwards for employees to have children is a non-starter unless we've decided that they are a protected class. That is, they provide less service and need more resources. You can't have it both ways.



Granted companies get good things by having women around, including pregnant women, but surely that's the company's call.



Women are still being restricted in private and religious areas - true. So are men. There are far more "perks" (scholarships, programs) available to women than men.



Millions of boys have been deprived of access to sports resources as a result of Title IX, while women have more access to resources than their proportional due to things like Yoga and Aerobics being considered for both genders. Feminists complain about the lack of funding for women's sports resources coming from private funding or for-pay funding, but the reality is simply that people prefer to watch men's sports, at least for most sports. The only way to fix this is to give them something they want to watch.



It is true that lots of things haven't been well tested on women (usually because of the complicating factor of hormones or because of societal's preference for keeping women safe). Before we get too enraptured with this, however, I would ask what the damage here is? Remember, that most of these drugs have been in the market for decades and we have no reason to believe that gender has caused any problem.



Women are indeed under-represented in politics and business, but with the current crisis in boys education, there simply won't be enough boys and men in a few generations to handle these jobs. This is self correcting.



I would also argue, as Sheryl Sandberg has in "Lean In", that a huge part of that problem lies with women themselves: You actually have to grab the brass ring. Nobody is going to put it in your hands. Nobody is going to make sure that once it is in your hands, you keep hold of it.
2015-09-23 13:12:00 UTC
Actually what's key to any group these days?



Interest Groups, if there was ever a time that Feminism fits right in, it's today, and it's relevant because policy isn't made on need anymore, policy is made on lobby-demands, so every group needs, and HAS an interest-group(look it up, whoever you identify as, there's a lobby-group trying to further your interests).
?
2015-09-23 18:55:40 UTC
This is my list of why feminism still exists. These are the reasons why it's still needed.



Women suffer more sexual abuse and rape (except in prison where, although the percentage of female prisoners being raped is higher, there are more men there, so they get raped more in terms of numbers.)

Women are objectified in the media for profit and with on-line pornography this is happening probably more than ever – pushing both men and women to think of women often as sexual objects, sluts or as body parts more than real whole valuable people with worth beyond beauty.

Women are targeted more by people posting nudes of them or pornography (revenge porn) without their permission.

Only women suffer from slut shaming.

Women suffer more victim blaming for rape but even for talking about any discrimination they receive.

Women suffer more from human trafficking (more are women). At the moment there is more slavery than at any time in history and it's mostly sex slavery.

Women are murdered by husbands in far too high numbers (3 times more women are killed by their spouses than men) and have been the target of murder mass killings just for being women.

More women live in poverty and the worst most desperate poverty in every single country in the world without exception.

Women earn less.

Women do the lion's share of unpaid work in our society with little respect or recognition for it.

Mothers pay a huge price for having children - usually 7 to 9% of her lifetime income while fathers suffer little to no income reduction and this affects their pensions and retirement income.

Mothers suffer discrimination from employers.

Women suffer discrimination when they try to negotiate wages or just for being assertive in a management position.

Women suffer workplace discrimination especially in non-traditional job (where I live most women who try to have a job in the construction field leave this trade in 5 years because of the prejudice they faced).

Women are still being restricted in many areas by artificial barriers or attitudes, such as religious institutions.

Women's sports is not funded or promoted as much as men's in high school, college or on the pro circuit.

Many things like cars and medicines have not properly been tested on women (especially pregnant women) and cause them harm. (Most drugs that have been taken off the market have been because of extreme adverse reactions primarily in women because of a lack of testing.)

Women are underrepresented in politics and business and decision making generally.



The third world needs advocacy to fight against the horrible atrocities against women there, whether it's massive aborting of female fetuses in India and China, forced abortion in China, honour killings in India and Pakistan, flogging rape victims in the Maldives, women not being able to drive and vote in Saudi Arabia and the dowry killings, acid attacks and massive sexual assault going on in India among other horrors.


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