Are there seriously people who believe that abortion shouldn't be an option in even horrific circumstances?

Question

I mean, I cannot enter the mind of person who wants to restrict abortion even in cases of say, rape, incest, genetic defects or teenage motherhood. Is the life of a totally non-sentient being honestly worth the most horrific circumstances possible? I just cannot get my head around such a thing.

I've even seen people say that abortion shouldn't be allowed even to protect the mother's health! How can these ultra pro-lifers be so caught up in their own ideology at the expense of the wellbeing of actual thinking, feeling, breathing people?

Answer 1

yes.

all over the place in "the bible belt".

let the mother AND child die.

NO ABORTION.



I of course think them insane.

Answer 2

To be honest I think people who think abortion is wrong even in rape cases make more sense than people who make an exception in that case. The latter seem to care more about punishing people for having sex than they care about the life of the fetus(which is supposedly the whole point of the pro-life thing). Don't get me wrong though, I'm pro-abortion myself, but I can see where people who are pro-life/anti-abortion even in rape cases are coming from.



But people who think abortion shouldn't be allowed even if the woman's life is in danger(which would be the same as killing someone in self-defense), yeah, they kind of scare me.

Answer 3

A little baby inside of a mother is a living creature. It just relies on the mother to care for it inside the womb for 9 months. It can't breathe or eat or protect itself in the 'outside' World. Yes some circumstances are bad, such as rape. But it's still a living creature. I think sometimes you just have to let life take its course. And yes sometimes it's bad for the well being of a 'thinking, breathing, feeling person'. But that baby is alive inside of the mother. It develops a heart beat and its a person. If the mother can't keep the child there are adoption centers all over. Then the child will still be alive. And did you realize that you were once a 'totally non-sentient being' as you put it. Imagine the life of those around you if you weren't born. They would be completely different. One person. One being. Can make a huge difference in someone's life.

Answer 4

They are reactionery in their class nature and therefore they are defending the feudal ideal. They want women not to have freedom which is their right and won by them through struggle. Also there is the fact that the feminism in 21st century transformed into something which was encompassing LGBT rights, against war for oil, for more pro people healthcare, education, equal rights for all and in general more progressive and left wing reforms.. ..and was talking against corporatocracy. So the corporatocracy also needed to curb this movement. So they ordered the politicians they fund to launch a propaganda and planned campaign on the earned reproductive rights of women...in order to divert the womens fight towards their reproductive rights. It wont work in the long run...but more people dont protest against the corporatocracy and protest against these...more better for them.

Answer 5

Unfortunately yes there are people that way. It's a lot easier to judge and tell someone what to do looking at the situation on the outside than feeling what's going on inside.

Answer 6

There are such people, but I believe they are a small minority, and circumstances like the ones you describe are rarely the reasons women have abortions. I believe that saying abortion should be unconditionally available is as absurd as saying abortion should be completely outlawed.

Answer 7

I've tried to bring up this point with women "in real life" and was nearly burned alive for it.



Let's just say "in case of rape" is a legitimate reason. I then bring up this...What exactly are the parameters of this rape claim to justify the abortion? Can a woman just walk into the medical clinic when she is 4 months pregnant and say "I was raped, you are required to give me an abortion." Should the requirement be that she had filed a police report within 24-48 hours after the incident? Are women going to be filing rape claims "just in case" she got pregnant from her one night stand? Let's say she does abort the child after a rape, then months later (courts take time) when the rapist is found "not guilty," then will she be charged with illegal abortion since, legally, she was not raped?



Whenever I hear people interviewing someone on their stance on abortion, they love to throw in "Well, what about in case of rape?" If any politician ever brought up the things I mentioned above, women and liberal groups would roast him/her alive.



This is why the "in case of rape" is a complete fallacy when discussed in terms of abortion.

Answer 8

Extremism is never a good thing, regardless of what your cause is. There are many extreme people out there, more than I care to think about. Abortion, like many other controversial topics, has grey areas.

Answer 9

Yes there are. The thing is, those people don't think it is fair for anyone to decide to end a life just for the convenience of the irresponsible. In cases of life or death, okay, save the mother. But using abortion as a form of birth control is just disturbing to me.



People seem to forget that they were once no different the those totally "non-sentient being"... How one can think of them as anything but human is beyond me.



So, unless the unborn poses a threat to the life of the mother, it has every right to live just as much as any fully grown adult or child.. That is what I believe and that wont change.



Edit: that "I wouldn't care" argument fails, you, as a defenseless developing baby, have no choice but to place your trust in your mother. You depend on her for everything, if she aborts you, you would not have the opportunity to spout your opinions.



What makes person-hood is not the argument here, the argument is what makes someone human... having two human parents and growing in the womb of a human mother, and the potential to grow into a fully developed human adult... makes one human.



Edit: Yes, which is why I said the fetus has NO choice but to trust its mother, it cannot protest when she decides to ends its life. Understand? It is up to the mother to make the right choice, you know? That comes with being a parent in charge of the well being of a life.



You do know that for hundreds of years, some races of "humans" were treated as animals and not considered human, right? This is no different, and also, if a person murders a pregnant woman, they get charged with two counts of murder, why is that?



Pretty obvious.

Answer 10

I oppose late term abortion - with exceptions for rape, incest or medical reasons.



very few people support a 100% ban on abortions without any exceptions.

Answer 11

Yes, it is in fact the official Catholic policy, and the RCC are the leaders and main money behind the forced pregnancy movement. They've been killing women in their hospitals for decades. Its getting a bit more publicity recently with wide publications of the death of that Indian woman in Ireland, the death of that girl with cancer who was denied an abortion so she could get chemotherapy, and the near death of the girl who was being denied a lifesaving abortion and only had her life saved after months of international pressure.



http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126985072



"They were in quite a dilemma," says Lisa Sowle Cahill, who teaches Catholic theology at Boston College. "There was no good way out of it. The official church position would mandate that the correct solution would be to let both the mother and the child die."



When Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted heard about the abortion, he declared that McBride was automatically excommunicated — the most serious penalty the church can levy.



"She consented in the murder of an unborn child," says the Rev. John Ehrich, the medical ethics director for the Diocese of Phoenix. "There are some situations where the mother may in fact die along with her child. But — and this is the Catholic perspective — you can't do evil to bring about good."



- catholic response after a director at a U.S. catholic hospital allowed a lifesaving abortion



Someday a "terrorist" will do the women of the world a favour and blow up the entire Vatican.

Answer 12

it seems like every woman uses that "in case of rape" bull crap to get away with abortion just because you women spread you damn legs and now you don't want to be responsible

Answer 13

Yes. I don't know what that says about them, or you, but that's the way it rolls.

Answer 14

I used to be "pro choice", but now I'm "pro life". I used to think if she wants an abortion than whatever.



I believe that abortion shouldn't be legal UNLESS birth threatens the mothers life or genetic defects. Rape is sad but is it the baby's fault? No. I think everyone should have right to life. All of the other excuses are stupid. It's not the baby's fault that the mother made stupid choices.



Teen sex, party sex, incest, all stupid choices and no one should have to die because of it.



If you don't want a baby don't make stupide choices. Also, there is always adoption. There are people who'd be glad to have a baby they can't make themselves. If you don't want to love the baby give it to someone who will.



Life is the natural choice.

Answer 15

Yes, they are called social conservatives

Answer 16

They are anti-sex pretty much. They just want a way to punish anyone who isn't married and having it. I hope they come up with a popular and widespread male birth-control pill so more and more people **** it up just because I feed off their scrumptious tears.

Answer 17

Sadly, many cardinals in the Catholic church believe just that!