Question:
Could you please tell me what these things have to do with feminism and how feminism is responsible for them?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Could you please tell me what these things have to do with feminism and how feminism is responsible for them?
Fifteen answers:
professorc
2010-03-19 07:55:12 UTC
Those who beleive this are grasping at straws.



You forgot global warming, Katrina, and the economic recession.



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I would vote for Dr who for best answer!
Adam
2010-03-19 15:03:33 UTC
Actually, I Like Knowing Who Is To Blame



This Morning Alone

For Example

Those Pesky Feminists

Misplaced My Car Keys



To The Question, However



My Views:



1. Stupidity And Greed



2. History And Biology



3. Evolving Balance



4. Nonsense – Or Perhaps Congratulations Are In Order



5. Lack Of Genuine Demand



6. Not American – No Idea



7. Perhaps (My Ignorance Of US Policy Extends To Macca's)
Meg
2010-03-19 05:43:57 UTC
It seems to me it is nothing to do with feminism and alot to do with finding something to blame for what ever happens in their or anyone else's life. It allows them to take little responsibility for getting on with life.
2016-04-15 12:41:27 UTC
Agreed. Also, there was a a good question asked about this very subject. And you answered the question with a good response, but the question was asked a year ago, so I doubt you'll still remember it - but I do. It stated: "Women complain about being "treated as equals," but why, then, do we view the sh*t that happens to them as much worse than what happens to men? Isn't this why people still view women as weaker and less capable than men? Because they can't even handle the same responsibilities as men?" This statement is very true. If a woman gets drunk and consents to having sex with a man while drunk, it is, in fact, her fault for getting drunk in the first place. If the man doesn't force sex onto the woman, then it is not rape. Women, just like men, have the capability to use common sense. Common sense tells us that drinking beer makes us more likely to get involved in dangerous situations; whether it be car crashes, violent altercations, etc. Feminist women think that we should teach our sons to not take advantage of women - taken directly from a feminist site -but, personally, I think we should teach our daughters to be more careful when drinking; I mean, rapist rape no matter how many times their fathers told them "Don't take advantage of women."
2010-03-19 05:50:12 UTC
In reality, those things have nothing to do with feminism/sex/gender. But on here, EVERYTHING is women's fault.



False rape claims: Nothing to do with feminism, everything to do with selfish, attention seeking girls/women not wanting to take respsonsibility for their actions.



Mens lack of reproductive rights: Thanks to biology, men have barely any reproductive responsibility. Basically, their role in created a baby, is having sex. Women have way more reproductive responsibility so of course we're going to have more reproductive rights. And that's completely fair.



The fact that women get sole custody more often than not: That's a court decision and each individual case is decided differently.



The divorce rate: I can't think of one reason why this would be the fault of feminism. People 100 years ago wanted divorces just as much as people now but it wasn't socially acceptable. Now it is, and there's no reason for you to stay with a spouse you despise.



Lack of Domestic Violence Shelters for men: Seriously, how many men would be willing to swallow their pride and get themselves help at these shelters? Not many. I still think there should be somewhere for abused men to go, but again, how is this women's fault? It's not like feminists are going around protesting against DV shelters for men. And what are men doing about it? Expecting women to do establish DV shelters for them?



Selective Service: There's never going to be a draft, and you can't even be drafted if you're younger than 18 or older than 25. And again, women didn't decide this, the men who ran the government in 1917 decided this.



Lol
Colonel Reb
2010-03-19 10:53:18 UTC
Feminism gets blamed for a lot of stupid things on here, but some things can partially be traced back to it. I would say most of it is a result of the militant feminists more than feminism in general, the problem being they were the ones who were "in charge" so to speak when the major changes came about.



False rape claims- Many feminists claim rape is almost never falsely accused and basically seem to want men accused of rape to be considered guilty until proven innocent. Though it doesn't happen as much anymore as the people who usually promoted this idea have mostly gotten fed up not many people were listening to them and left, it used to be a fairly common thing to see someone promote the idea it was sexist not to immediately assume a woman was telling the truth about rape and therefore the man is guilty until evidence says otherwise.



False rape claims themselves cannot be blamed on feminism, though. There's even a false claim of rape in the Bible in Genesis (Joseph and Potipher's wife, which by the way shows what happens when you blindly believe the woman as well).



Men's lack of reproductive rights- The only thing I'd put on feminism here is the fact men basically have to bow down to what women want when it comes to pregnancy and early childhood. Of course women are the ones more directly affected by pregnancy, but when you have so many feminists who also bemoan how men don't "step up" after the child is born, yet want to completely ignore men and leave them out of the decisions before, things start to look very strange.



Women get sole custody- I don't think feminism is the major culprit here. But not many feminists seem to be doing anything to change this, and many in fact will deny it happens. I'm not sure it's entirely a coincidence this became much more common after the feminist movements of the 1960s. Still this is one that largely gets overblown in my opinion.



Divorce rate- I would really only say feminism has an indirect relationship here. Feminists have promoted independence of women, which was taken by some to mean divorce at the first sign of trouble. I wouldn't blame feminism for this necessarily, I think it's largely more the result of a lack of moral values in society in general. I was tempted to leave this one off the list for that reason but do think there is a bit of a correlation, though I don't think I'd put a lot of blame on feminism for this one.



Lack of men's domestic violence shelters- Here's another one I nearly left off the list. I don't really blame feminism for the lack of shelters--except for one thing. Many feminists promote domestic violence as an almost exclusively male thing, that it's almost entirely a result of The Patriarchy(TM). While it's hard to deny more often serious cases of domestic violence do include a male abuser and a female victim, it's not entirely one-sided.



All that being said, someone could still set up a shelter for men.



Women don't have to sign up for the draft- I don't get this one either.



McDonald's doesn't serve McMuffins after 10:30- McMuffins suck anyway. The fewer McMuffins being made the faster they can get me my hash browns, so if this is true I'll thank feminism for it.
2010-03-19 10:03:00 UTC
False rape claims I have to blame on feminism to an extent because of all the men are natural rapists quotes that lead to confusion.



Men's lack of reproductive rights I blame on the supreme court and Margaret Sanger.



Women getting sole custody- Traditional role that's still around. Mighty funny though that a rotten mother can be considered the default parent when the father is more responsible. Unfair to blame it all on feminist. I'll admit.



High divorce rate- No fault divorce promoted by feminism makes it easier, women getting half a man's property and

worth is a coincidence (won't blame that on feminist). We just

don't put up with each other's mess like grandpa and grandma used too. Feminism and the democratic party are at fault for making entitlement to easy to get and replacing father's in homes- Main reason Rodney became a hardcore Reagan Conservative.



Lack of Domestic Shelters for men- mostly due to faulty architecture. I understand that you don't want a woman to have to see males in her place of sanctuary. But can't they build a wall or divider big enough to keep the two sexes segregated and out of each others sights? Men pay taxes to build these shelters too and should have access somehow. I understand why the feminist are like they are about this but they need to find a middle ground with MRAS on this one.



Selective service- Nonissue. They don't draft nobody anyway.



Oh yeah- Them egg Mcmuffins- You can thank them crazy grass-eaters for that for all the animal welfare, animal rights issues that make it hard to get eggs unless the chickens is raised a certain way.
2010-03-19 05:38:05 UTC
mens lack of reproductive rights



- before feminism women did not have reproductive rights to kill babies and men did not have reproductive rights to kill them as well



now a woman can say when to kill the baby but the man cannot escape he has to take care of the baby whether he likes it or not or pay for it



divorce rate

feminism is clearly to blame. with feminism women have become less tolerant when something happens to them. they can nag their man to hell. but if they are unsatisfied with one single thing they resort to divorce



before feminism there were less divorces and marriages lasted
Dan A
2010-03-19 05:36:45 UTC
False rape claims-

Well i wouldn't blame feminism for this one there are just spiteful people out there who will lie for stupid reasons.



Men's lack or reproductive rights

Well feminism has continually pushed to portray the image that men are not needed with children whatsoever other then to start the process. Despite the fact that there are so many things that can go wrong with children with no male figures in their life.



The fact that women get sole custody more often than not

Because simply being female pretty much gives you a greater chance of keeping the kids completely ignoring the fact who would be better for the kids. And once again feminism has tried to force this image that men and children don't belong together.



The divorce rate (or 'The failure of marriage')

Well women are the ones who file for like 70% of divorce



Lack of Domestic Violence Shelters for men

Because feminism ignored the fact that men can be harmed i saw a documentary where when initial research was being done into DV feminists expressly denied that female on male violence exists. Even now when you see adverts for DV its always male on female violence despite the fact that women make up 30%+ of reported DV cases.



That in America men and not women have to sign up for Selective Service

No clue here, just that feminism seems very selective in what 'equal' treatment they want. A bit like "we want equal treatment we will take this and this but....no we don't want that one men can keep that."



That McDonald's doesn't serve McMuffins after 10:30

Because radical feminists raid McDonalds and eat them all =O
2010-03-19 16:27:19 UTC
False claims of rape. I've heard some people say that feminism makes women hate men. So they punish men by claiming rape...?



Men's lack of reproductive rights: They blame feminists for not fighting for men's rights, so men don't have to do it... I don't get it either, but men have actually said to me that they are against feminism because feminists don't do this for them. Apparently it is not men's responsibility to fight for men's rights at all. That's women's work only.



Women get sole custody more often: Some blame feminists for this because they think there is a conspiracy to keep men away from the kids, so mothers can turn their sons soft, and their daughters against men. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that most men put less than a fifth of their time into their kids while they are still married to the mother, while most mothers put more than half of their time toward the kids during marriage, and even more after they separate from the father. After all, that could only be proven if men were to start spending more time with their kids wile they don't "have to", (while they are still married), and then see a rising trend in men getting sole custody... Oh wait!!! That is exactly what has been proven in courthouses internationally! Myth busted.



Divorce rate: This is in part the responsibility of feminism, as women who would have once been forced to remain in marital "Bliss", now are able to lead successful, independent lives, if they feel the need to do so, without the fear of violent reprimand, or permanent poverty, or outcasting.



DV shelters for men: I have heard men claim that feminists don't want men to have rights, but this one is actually the opposite of the truth. It was feminism that showed the world that women are powerful and capable people, and it was that new view of women that made it possible for anyone to even consider taking DV against men seriously. Even today the subject is often ridiculed, just like feminism is ridiculed, but you will notice that in places where women are considered to be very powerful, there are more safe houses, and other services, made available for men and women alike.



Selective service: Again, men here blame women for not doing the work for them. They think feminists should put men's rights at the top of their priority list. Never mind that women here have very little authority in the military at all. In fact the vast majority of the people making military policy are men. Men who have refused for decades to give women an equal role in the military. BTW women have been asking for exactly that, which would by default mean signing up for the selective service. So I'm not really sure why anti feminists complain to women at all on this one. Talk about barking up the wrong tree. (I'm unbiased on this, because I'm not American. I am an activist who is currently living in USA though.)



The only gender related information I have on McKrappBurger is that they are anti Feminine when it comes to equal treatment and equal opportunity for promotion. They favor men. (and hate all things healthy. 800 calories in a SALAD? WTF do they put in there????) X_X



Edit:

The Rock: "before feminism women did not have reproductive rights to kill babies and men did not have reproductive rights to kill them as well



now a woman can say when to kill the baby but the man cannot escape he has to take care of the baby whether he likes it or not or pay for it"



You are wrong about abortion rights. Long before feminism, men were forcing abortions, in many cases with full backing from the law. There is documentation going all the way back to the roman times.



What you were talking about had nothing to do with taking men's reproductive rights away. It was women claiming their bodies as their own. This was them saying, "I am a person, not your property". And it remains appropriately so to this day. On the other hand feminists have put a lot of time and money into finding alternate options for men to avoid pregnancy in the first place (besides condoms virginity or surgery), and many have made suggestions on how to compromise regarding Paternal abortion" One example: https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20091004042223AAN6IBA&show=7#profile-info-fDGPbwdsaa
kg1
2010-03-19 05:37:48 UTC
false rape claims- unwavering feminist support for rape claimers and general vicfim mentality feminists promote encourages this.



mens lack of reproductive rights/ custody- mostly just nature, but feminist do and have always supported females in these, and not men. Women get feminist suppots ranging from encouragement to claim DV to make sure they get children and other messed up lega; support to te way they influence cout to make these things easier for women to do.



lack of dv shelters for men- they have argued against these, due to not wanting an of their funding taken or shared.



that men in america but not women sign up- I don't blame feminists for this, but i NOTE HOW THEY REALLY DON'T GIVE A SH*T, YET ARE SP SUPPORTIVE OF WOMEN'S COMBAT RIGHTS.



That mcdonalds don't serve mcmuffins after 10:30- because they know that the word muffins will promoted sexual harassment claims from feminists when guys drool over their muffins.
2010-03-19 06:28:44 UTC
Minus the mcmuffins, HAVEN'T WOMEN"S ADVOCATES HAD THEIR FINGERS IN MANY OF THESE AREAS?



* For those who claim to fight for equality and have taken the primary responsiblity for shaping our modern culture with the Women's Movement, men are still trying to understand the new definition of equality.



Did you forget anything that average man had a collective voice in was deemed sexist & discrimination against women. NOTICE THE Modern SILENCE from men on social issues.



************************** False rape claims ******************



Here's an example for the first one. WOMEN"S ADVOCATES demand and fight for the toughest possible sentences for rapists (Crimes against Women). Yet, never fought for the toughest possible sentences for women who frame men (Crimes against Men) with false rape claims. You can put a guy away for decades and it's a wrist slap if any punishment at all. In fact they say, she's just a trouble young women, the poor thing needs help.



Women's Advocates provide RAPE SHIELD Laws for Rape Victims, Yet wrongly accused men are allowed to have their names and faces plastered everywhere and their lives destroyed.





These types of DOUBLE STANDARDS have everything to do with the work of FEMINISTS AND ARE PRESENT IN ALMOST EVERY EXAMPLE YOU LISTED.



Let's be honest here, The minute you call attention to these double standards, your a woman hating sexist, which is why few people dare challenge feminist creed.





********** YourFace *******



Here's the perfect example of how dangerous Feminist influence towards men in our society actually is, because it produces someone as close-minded, entitled and shallow.



*********** Reproductive Rights **********



Women bare the majority of the physical burden of birth so they should have all the POWER.



Yet, the Father (who is nothing more than a sex machine) should be legally financially bonded for 18 years.



If men are paying for 18 years do they not deserve an equal say?



Furthermore, you can see the total sense of entitlement, I own this child. Who gives a turd about your sperm. Only I should have rights and power.



The right to abort the child I own, or the right to keep the child I own.



You do what I say and are subject to what I decide.
2010-03-19 05:56:24 UTC
D@m Ronald! That commie trying to tell me when I can eat a McMuffin!





Actually, I think that men don't blame feminism so much for CAUSING these things, as they blame feminism for not addressing gender inequalities that affect men, or just so happen to work in a woman's favor.



It is called "hypocrisy"
jizzumonkey
2010-03-19 05:32:05 UTC
What were they doing out of the kitchen in the 1st place ?





Ronald McDonald needs a b*tch slap regarding the McMuffin!!
potbellydeskquibbler
2010-03-20 08:12:47 UTC
False rape claims - a cornerstone of femiNAZI propaganda allow women superior rights to harass, stalk, bankrupt men via a corrupt biased judiciary and legal system. a seamless extension of the woman's kkk that would incite, violence, discrimination, murder of blacks whom they claimed 'eyeballed' them (looked at them in a way that caused the women to fear) see Rosewood Massacre.



Mens lack or reproductive rights - a cornerstone of femiNAZI propaganda to make women and mothers superior rights to harass, control, stalk, bankrupt, extort men via corrupt and biased judiciary and legal system, allowing women to avoid parental responsibility at anytime, while refusing to allow men the equal opportunity to do so. reproductive rights allow women to extort money, marriage, etc from men via threats of murdering his child, or forcing the man to pay 20+ years of child support to a malicious mother for a child he may not want, nor may not even be his.



The fact that women get sole custody more often than not - a cornerstone of femiNAZI propaganda to make women and mothers superior rights to harass, control, stalk, bankrupt, extort men via corrupt and biased judiciary and legal system, that provides perverse incentives for women to divorce or remain unmarried. Women profit more from the benefits of getting a divorce or being single mothers, the biggest 'payoff'' is child support payments. Fathers are forced, against their will, to pay bazillions of dollars in child support payments to mothers, while all men are forced, against their will to pay taxes to support welfare and other programs for only women and mothers, that exclude men and fathers, based on the biased prejudiced profiling that only women are fit parents.



The divorce rate (or 'The failure of marriage') - a cornerstone of femiNAZI propaganda to make women and mothers superior rights to harass, control, stalk, bankrupt, extort men via corrupt and biased judiciary and legal system, About 85% of marriage is initiated by women, who profit from divorce. Men are worth more to women divorced than as husbands in an intact family, divorced women typically get the house, car, savings, alimony, child support and a wide array of femiNAZI funding programs not available to married women.



Lack of Domestic Violence Shelters for men - a cornerstone of femiNAZI propaganda to make women and mothers superior rights to harass, control, stalk, bankrupt, extort men via corrupt and biased judiciary and legal system, Shelters are just one small symbol of the overarching problem of bazillions of dollars spent on femiNAZI programs such as VAWA, that overtly discriminate against, and exclude, men and fathers. The billions of $$$ on DV Shelters and other femiNAZI programs don't just help women and exclude men, this money is actively used to advance genocidal hate Speech against men, to openly profile, target, harass, retaliate against men. This funding is not different from a program that could be called Violence Against Whites Act, that forced blacks and others, to pay bazillions of tax dollars to fund racist programs to help only whites while while not only excluding blacks, but most of the funding was used to harass, stalk, profile, disseminate hate speech against blacks, as violent, abusive etc.. and allowed any white to seize the homes, income, savings, and children of any black merely by making a claim of 'fear' and spewing out racist hate speech against blacks.



That in America men and not women have to sign up for Selective Service - another example of special treatment for women. While it is proven that under stress of combat women are more irrational, unstable, moody, erratic, and tend to lash out emotionally in ways that may endanger others.. there are many jobs in the military that women are suited for, and could be called up for, as only about 1 in 10 jobs in the military are direct combat positions.


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