Question:
do men who dislike feminism oppose the 'movement' or the idea?
2013-09-05 16:13:13 UTC
simply put: do they oppose feminism in practice due to its history? Or do they oppose the idea that men and women are equally intelligent and should be granted equal rights?
Fifteen answers:
EB
2013-09-05 16:32:01 UTC
I doubt very much that you'll find consensus, amongst men as to what their concerns are. Some men have legitimate concerns -access to their children, equality in educational standards etc. Some men actually just dislike the idea that it is far more difficult to find a woman that will conform to the traditional role of staying at home, doing all the home chores and kissing their husbands a**e.
?
2013-09-05 16:25:54 UTC
I don't know anyone, men or women who oppose equal rights and equal opportunity for women or all people. None!



Feminism is NOT that movement. Feminism is NOT that idea. Therein lies the problems communicating ideas about feminism here.



Many people believe the dictionary definition of feminism as being for equal rights or equality. This idea is also promoted by mainstream feminist groups as a way of roping in impressionable young girls and guys into the movement, and also as a guarantor to shame those who oppose them. I mean, who could oppose equality right?



However dig deeper into the feminist movement and you find the ugly truth. It's a marxist movement based on the hatred of men. Men as the oppressor of women. Read the hateful statements of the feminist leaders, the radicals if you will and you will be left with no doubt as to where they stand. The mainstream feminists never call them out on it. And women's studies courses treat those misandrists with reverence. Who could agree with such a hateful movement?



"When some of the most prominent feminists and famous women make openly hateful anti-male statements, and the mainstream feminist organizations say and do nothing to distance themselves from such public statements, then it’s clear that the hatred of men has an accepted place in mainstream feminism."



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2013-09-05 21:53:00 UTC
I oppose the movement



there is nothing wrong with the basic ideology of feminism which is to make both men and women have equal rights .



we have already established that throughout history though so there no longer any need for feminism



the only reason feminist movement is still going is to abolish gender roles which i strongly disagree with
2013-09-05 16:19:57 UTC
From what I've seen people who dislike feminism believe that it doesn't care about men or their safety/security/equality.



I used to be an active feminist, but then I started looking into some of the struggles that men go through (specifically the treatment of sexual assault victims and the general bias of the family court system) and after that I couldn't call myself a feminist anymore. I think women should lobby for the rights of oppressed men as well as oppressed women. It should be about true equality.



That's why now I call myself an equalist.
?
2013-09-05 16:34:36 UTC
The movement. Every man I personally know and most men I see here support the idea of equal opportunity and non discrimination. They have no problem with equality philosophy (idea) feminists often claim they are about.



Most men I know who have a problem with feminism (more and more all the time) have a problem with what feminism actually lobbies (the movement) or the spin they put out in support of such lobbying efforts.
Ruaidhri
2013-09-05 16:21:44 UTC
I am all for gender equality and although women are still discriminated against I often get the impression that a lot of modern feminists are looking for special treatment rather than equality. I find also that a lot of feminists are actually anti men rather than pro women and act as if men are nothing but horny brainless fuckwits with no emotions. It is unfortunate that these people have given feminism a bad name. This is the minority of femenists but they are the ones that get all the attention from the media etc. This is my problem with so called "feminism". Apologies for bad english
Goobypls
2013-09-06 04:30:08 UTC
I don't oppose the movement or the idea but there are always extreme idiots who ruin it for everyone. Women should be equal in everything so a woman beating up a man should be taken as seriosuly as a man beating up a woman.
?
2013-09-06 08:10:36 UTC
we hate the idea of man haters that want to destroy men and also we hate the idea of feminism only giving women the perks of being equal but not the hardship of it
Ondrej
2013-09-05 16:16:25 UTC
Mostly from my experience, they oppose the wrong application of a great idea. I believe women should have equal rights. Just hate the way certain feminists go about this...
?
2013-09-05 16:53:14 UTC
I believe it has much more due to the fact that men and woman already have equal rights; it's just in different areas. Giving women all the same rights as men currently have, only creates women to have more rights then men. People don't seem to see it this way but it's the truth.



Some Examples:

Married couple has a child together, they divorce, Women gets the child under just about any circumstances. It doesn't matter if the father is more fit for the job, the woman automatically has Custody to the child; assuming shes not entirely incapable of doing do. Father has to fight for custody but it's nearly impossible for a father to get full custody if the mother doesn't allow it under any circumstances. If you revert that, it's impossible for the mother to go without any custody if she doesn't agree assuming shes not abusing the child in a major way.



Men forced to pay child support or they could face prison, for women it's optional in some states of the US.



Man strikes a woman, it's automatically non-justified unless it was in self defense, but even that is limited at best.



Married couple divorces, Woman is Automatically entitled to a percentage of income/items he had made/owned. reverted; a Man is Not automatically entitled to what she had made. He must take it to court, although it can pass it's nowhere close to the chances a woman has.



Women only ventures are justified however men only ventures are illegal in most states.



Feminist organization such as the Elizabeth Fry Society push for community sentences for women. Meaning men go to jail while women that do the same crime will only receive community service in some cases.



In Sexual occurrences, if a woman claims she was drunk (Doesn't even have to be proven in some cases) and she claims to have been raped; weather she gave consent or not' it's automatically claimed as rape in court. Reverted, their has never been a successful case under the same circumstances.

This is one of the most abused false claimed crimes in the US, It's been caught quite a few times and the punishment is severe, however it's something that's nearly impossible to prove otherwise.





==Rights Men have that Woman Don't==



Can't stroll around topless in a public area.



Much more difficult to obtain combat related jobs.



In some jobs, a Female could be paid less than a male would, although this is almost nonexistent as of currently.







Of course their may be more on each side but These are the ones I know of personally (Off the top of my head) that I've seen the facts/laws for.
?
2013-09-05 16:33:03 UTC
From my experience they oppose what they perceive to be a special interest group that only cares about female interests and rights, at the expense of male interests and rights. They oppose the female-supremacists and misandrists that have hijacked the Feminism bandwagon, not equality itself.
?
2013-09-05 17:07:54 UTC
I dislike too much sugar in my tea; too much salt on my chips/fries.

Feminism is in a whole other league. Diluted feminism a.k.a. mainstream feminism has its' roots in an elitist and hateful movement.

I am a Citizen of my Country and I will stand up for the Rights of any Citizen who is being unlawfully denied the Rights that our forefathers and fore-mothers fought to gain for us: for you to imply I wish to deny someone their Right because of their sexual organs speaks volumes about your ignorance of the spectrum of the subject.
Mark
2013-09-05 21:52:13 UTC
Feminism has failed. Men run from feminists these days.
2013-09-05 16:17:34 UTC
they generally oppose the aspects of feminism where it favors women over men - and the hypocrisy and sexism of some of its ideas and actions.
2013-09-06 17:17:00 UTC
Many men I've come across seem to feel threatened by a strong woman, because it seems to threaten their masculinity. I'm a strong woman in my own right, but I married a man who wasn't threatened by it, because he was secure in himself as a man, and I love that about him. I've been married to him for 48 years, and it's been a happy one. We have two children, all grown now. My son has remained single, but my daughter has been happily married for 22 years in her own right.. It can work, but you have to want to make it work. It takes a man who is just as strong, and secure for it to work.


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